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Skeptyk ILL
01-02-10, 2:02 PM
Topical battle

Cats:
Imagery, depth, vocab, multi's, concept, complexity, flow, opener, closer

Due: Midnight

Bar limit: 20 bars from both..!

Topic:
http://kurtisl.com/photoblog/images/20071105160240_painter.jpg

G'Luck

Dope Antelope
01-02-10, 2:13 PM
check

Skeptyk ILL
01-02-10, 2:52 PM
-Check-

Wanna make it 24 hours homie....im busy tomorrow so i can whip something up tonight for sure..!

Dope Antelope
01-02-10, 2:54 PM
Aight I'll drop in the next 24 anyways maybe even in the next 3-4 depending on how busy I am.

Skeptyk ILL
01-02-10, 2:55 PM
I got you in 3-4 then man..!

Dope Antelope
01-03-10, 8:01 AM
YouTube- Concrete Coffin DRIZZY DRAKE SHIT INSTRUMENTAL

The stories never been black n white, I just add color to the book
the meaning of writings on the wall are discovered as you look
I smothered blocks with my prints, look past the grit
the night watches as my mind’s strains are scratched on the bricks
the sidewalks sprayed in blood, remain the graves n crypts
many die for repping area codes so I engraved the shit
Lamp post staring me back, shadows broadens my palm
clutch my anger between fingers, ignoring alarms
sirens echo the streets while my can rattles, authorities close
straddle across the surfaces, this the art I already chose
My gritty experiences symbolized with vivid images
but do you paint over Hieroglyphics on the pyramids?
this is history, ancestors portrayed the cultures real light
but law enforcements ashamed to show the future what we like
The hood has stories, I tell ‘em throwin’ caution to wind
these pictures significant these ain’t just the scrawlin’s of kids

These are genuine depictions of life, seen as I spray
Concretes seepin’ the paint so the streets feelin’ my pain
all I got is blood, sweat and tears, I express this through
pictures, unknown who’s tryna speak out except for you
to the all seeing eye it’s just a delinquents illustration
these are messages encrypted, inscriptions that are saying..
Look beyond the depths of reputation, cuz I gain satisfaction
from being frowned upon by classes unimpressed with actions
If possible, I’d tag the highest building for the world to see
Unable to cover up expression, NOT in form of words to read
Look through a vandals eyes and ask do we vandalize?
the Legal lies legalized for stopping us that’s where the scandal lies
It’s not for recognition, only as a reminder that we exist
the aerosols mist depicts the significance of life that we miss
Think, I convey messages through art without expensive utensils
why’s paint on a wall dissimilar to a canvas etched with a pencil
the environments my gallery without any price-tags
priceless thoughts of a common man, invisible in the night’s mask
there’s a reason for this communication, why abolish it
the vapours creepin’ in my mind got me paintin’ something astonishin’

Yet talents aren’t recognized like Picasso or Da Vinci
You can’t relate to modern minds so decipher what I’m inkin’
would you rather me grasping spraybottles or concealing a weapon
I have nothing but my artistry, why take my freedom of expression

Skeptyk ILL
01-03-10, 9:45 AM
YouTube- ( Official Instrumental) Nas - You're Da Man


 
A Beauitful Histroy
Relization is the outcome, for the start of pictures
A cloaked form' prevoked from the art of scriptures
Harsh & stricture, symbolic offering's of the dead
Stabbed with crisen lead, for a couples fling to be wed
Things that are read, a certain understood mindset
From the first one's to find it, vocabulary at it's finest
Temple's & catacomb's, hold the secert's of age
Keep readin the page, about the most recently staged
Pieceing the puzzle together, hyroglific's were the first
Reaching a new dawn, they transformed it into words
A version outspoken to one another, plus written in ink
Listened for speech, excatly how the image was synced
Cause i feel it in me, i know evolution was far from done
The stars & sun, transformed & harnessed as one
With melody's, that run through the hearts of many
Bach, wrote the charts and mozart touched plenty
While note's, became the newest form of the entity
Conformed for any, wasn't long till it was torn by penny's
Yet the truth, stayed strong & divided the greed
Slide & read, showing the differance between pride & need
It strive's & proceeds, it's own life span cause timing exceeds
Any date it's steady fate climb's, cause rhyming succeeds
With a another version, & opinion state's the best of yet
Even though' the reasons low, it still faces neglect
But we hear it through our ears, it's divined in full
Tingles my spine & skull, though the minds of all
I read it & no doubt see it, on the bulidings around
Chilling with sound, but yet it's still illing the towns
Even if it was sprayed on, or mixed for prefection
I'll never change, cause to me this is real direction
A intervention, that everyone should expreience
You hear this, theres no fear when the feeling hits
Cause it's gone through the history of time & man
Keep lieing damn, cause this entity's shine is planned
Reader's look closer, at your histroy book's & writter's
They shook the title's, to be honest these crooks are lair's
Everthing that happen, from the glific's, graffiti & the music
They removed it, tampered the truth & abused it
Stop the leer, it's always possible cause the chalk is clear
The text spoke of merely one thing, its said HIP HOP WAS HERE
 

P.I. The Genius
01-03-10, 10:22 AM
Imagery: Dope's was easier to see
depth: Dope edged it
vocab: Anonymous 1 by a nose
multi's: Anonymous 1
concept: Dope was more original imo
complexity: Anonymous 1
flow: Dope by far
opener: Dope
closer: Anonymous 1

vote: Dope Antelope because I noticed that anonymous 1 had a slow start a MEAN middle and a decent closing, whereas dope's verse read good from the very beginning so I gott vote for the easier read and the concept I liked a lil bit better but this shit was extra close I encourage other people to read both verses ... H.O.F. Mention

Dope Antelope
01-03-10, 11:49 AM
thanks uppin

Sinfulhollywood
01-03-10, 12:14 PM
Imagery: Dope
depth: Dope
vocab: anonymous 1
multi's: Anonymous 1
concept: Dope had more originality
complexity: Dope
flow: Dope
opener: Dope
closer:Dope

dope got this one they were both great but dopes pulled me in kept me reading and anonymous 1 i had to read a couple times over because it was hard to stick with

Magician
01-03-10, 12:30 PM
Dope

this was great, loved the self-rightousness of the speaker, and the earnest attitude and passion he had for tagging. you did a great job of encapsulating that in your rhyme. the first 12 or so lines are describing the action, and these are definitely the best bars in the whole thing. the imagery in there is so strong, it reminded me of the first time i heard mos def's verse on "respiration," no joke. these two bars stuck out especially for their crazy imagery:

I smothered blocks with my prints, look past the grit
the night watches as my mind’s strains are scratched on the bricks

Lamp post staring me back, shadows broadens my palm
clutch my anger between fingers, ignoring alarms

those are both crazy as hell, great to read. really put me into the speaker's shoes and crafted a vivid image.

the one drawback to this was that after the first 12 or so, you pretty much keep the same general topic and core thought as your subject for the rest of the drop, which is another 24 or lines or thereabouts. this isn't a bad thing by definition, but here it was a little bad because the subject started to get somewhat redundant as time went on, and it felt like -- with a few of the lines -- that you had said this, or something like it, before.

despite this, the last four were great, ending this on a high note and reestablishing the speaker's ideals and way of life.

(on an unrelated note, i don't know how well that beat would work with this if you were putting it on audio, but do you)



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A1

i'm glad you took a different route with his drop, made it more of a battle. you did an excellent job of being a kind of omnipotent all-seeing set of eyes in this drop, painting a picture of an entire culture and its evolution, starting from ancient art into the present.

the story was consistent and moved smoothly throughout. there wasn't anytime when i was bored or felt what you were saying was superfluous. from beginning to end, this was focused and worked to contribute to the overall quality of the drop.

A version outspoken to one another, plus written in ink
Listened for speech, excatly how the image was synced

this is probably the strongest line in the piece. it's your best bit of imagery, in my opinion, and it serves to add to the vast portrait you've already worked on creating. i love the way you use images and words here interchangeably, illustrating how they both serve the same purpose within the culture.

another line that stuck out for summing up a large part of hip-hop once again is this one:

Yet the truth, stayed strong & divided the greed
Slide & read, showing the differance between pride & need

each line there is on point and delivers a message, and it still manages to have multies and shit. that's quite an accomplishment.

a downside - especially considering that this is a battle - to this drop is that it wasn't as emotionally driven as dope's was. granted, dope was writing from a tagger's perspective, and you were writing more as an observer, but i could've used more of a personal connection from you as a writer, to make what you were saying have a bit more impact.

this doesn't stop this from being a crazy drop, definitely an excellent job done.


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okay, cats:

Imagery - damn, this is a tough one. both of you had some great imagery in there, but overall i gotta go with dope, mainly for the lines i quoted above.

Depth - this isn't easy, but i think a1 took this one, maybe just for the scale of his drop.

Vocab - a1 gets this one. he had some crazy vocab in there, as usual, and had no problem tying it into his rhymes.

Multi's - ahhh shit.. this is one of the toughest categories to go for. a1 prolly had more, but it comes down to who maximized the utility of multies the best.... ultimately, dope gets my vote on this one.

Concept - both of you had different concepts, thankfully, and came at it from a pretty unique angle. i gotta go with a1, just for the originality. dope's felt somewhat conventional, especially compared to a1's almost epic piece.

Complexity - each drop was complex as hell. i don't know whose had more complexity though... i gotta go with dope though. a1 had more shit going on, but dope's was very complex in the way that it opened up and went from one person just tagging and getting his anger out to a musing on all of art and the nature of self-expression.

Flow - a1 again, from what i could tell. i don't really like the inclusion of flow in the categories, but whatever. a1 gets it because his flow was way more consistent than dope's, which seemed pretty sporadic and somewhat spastic.

Opener - you both had some amazing openers that really set your shit off... but i gotta go with dope on this one. he really set it off more clearly, and his opener was built upon a lot better than a1's was.

Closer - no offense, but both closers felt kinda corny to me. it all comes down to whose is less corny, and to my eyes that's dope.




Vote - Dope Antelope, but barely. you both did your thing, excellent topical battle, i really enjoyed reading this. excellent work done by both of you, as expected.

Dope Antelope
01-03-10, 1:48 PM
Thanks for the votes. that's 3-0.

Good battle. HOF'd.

P.I. The Genius
01-03-10, 5:42 PM
I don't think you will catch any arguments about the hall of fame thing

Dope Antelope
01-03-10, 5:45 PM
If I do I'll direct them to mr shut up and know your role.

P.I. The Genius
01-03-10, 5:54 PM
hahaha direct them to a can of whoop ass